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#162004/8/2 13:12:22
好文章!!



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#172006/4/28 8:59:30
听取他人的意见 吸取其中的精华



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#182006/4/28 12:41:00
重新翻译一点:
So I would say that drawing is as subjective as any aspect of art, and has more to do with the emotional expression of form. If it looks wrong to you, it is wrong… to you. There is an old painting I did of a gladiator crouching. I was very happy with the gesture of it. But so many people says it looks messed up to them. So who is right? If you go with the expanded idea of what drawing can be, to include more expressive ideas, it becomes very subjective.
所以说,想起他的艺术种类一样,绘画也是很主观的,更重要的是形体的情感表达。如果一幅画看起来对你来说是错的,那么它就是错的——对你来说。我曾经画过一副角斗士蹲着的画,我对他的姿势感到很满意。但很多人都说画的有问题(messed up这里并不是凌乱的意思,仅仅是指不对劲)。所以,谁是对的呢?如果你采用了拓展过的绘画的定义,包含了更多表达的思想,它就更加主观了。

But you protest “you just said you did not know what drawing is!” That’s right I don’t, but I think that it has something to do with your own personal understanding the form and structure of the things around us, and figuring out how to express that on a 2-d surface.
但是你可以抗议说“你刚才说过你不知道什么是绘画!”不错,我不知道,但我认为它跟你个人对我们周围的事物的形体和结构的理解有关,以及解决如何将它们在二维的表面上表达出来。
I can see them sitting before the feet of the robed master, as he tells tales of the greatness that they should all strive for, to immolate themselves on the pyre of 19th century masters, there is only one true path and all else lead to the dark side. So try to find people you can learn from, but a variety, not one (or one institution) who claims to Know, and says if you don’t listen you are Damned.
我可以想见他们(年轻的艺术家)坐在穿着长袍的大师脚下,听他讲述他们应当为之奋斗的伟大成就,将自己献祭于19世纪大师们的柴火堆上,只有一条道路通向真理而其他的都通向黑暗(这句话也是大师们讲的,作者嘲笑的)。所以,试图找到一些你能学到一些东西的人,但是要多找一些,不要把自己局限在一个(或者一所)认为自己知道,并且如果你不听话就认为你不好的人或学院上。

I went to ACCD and took some classes at Art Institute of California. Both are wonderful in their own way, both take themselves way too seriously. But that could be for marketing purposes. Nobody likes a wishy washy. “Pay us 100 grand and we will give you a fragmented idea of what we think art might be partially about” Not very good. Lets just say they have started to believe their own PR.
这段没人翻译哈哈,我来讲个大概吧。作者上过两所艺术院校,ACCD俺也不知道是哪里,另一所是加州艺术学院。这两所学校各自有自己的好处,但他们都太过认为自己很牛B——也许只是为了市场宣传。没人喜欢空头支票:给我们10万块钱,我们将告诉你一点关于艺术有可能是什么的秘密——这不好。在这里我们暂且认为他们过分相信自己的公共关系部门(负责宣传、促销什么的,作者在这里讽刺这两所学校都认为自己掌握了艺术的真理)。

I don’t think this will happen to you, you are a little older, and maybe have a stronger personality and could tell them to shove it.
我不认为这会发生在你身上,你比较年长,或许有更强的个性,可以不理他们这一套(指上面的学院的促销手段)。

If you find yourself on your own, go to museums often, carry a sketchbook at all times (and even draw in it) and draw from life as much as you can. Learn about art history too. Draw and think while you are drawing. Spending 2 hours filling a background behind a head drawing with a 4H pencil is not the best use of time. I said all this before.
如果你发现自己不得不自学,多去博物馆,总是带着速写本(也可以在里面画画-作者讲的大概是比较正式的画而非速写),尽可能地进行写生。同时也学些艺术史。一边画一边想。用两小时给一副头像用4h铅笔画背景不是很好地利用时间,我以前一直这么说。



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#192006/4/28 17:02:38
谢谢moonrain的补充翻译~~~



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#202006/6/12 20:16:56
我想请问老大,这位Spooge Demon大师的画在哪里可以看到呢?我找了半天也没找到.



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#212006/6/12 20:38:54
JostarMX在上个帖子中说
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我想请问老大,这位Spooge Demon大师的画在哪里可以看到呢?我找了半天也没找到.


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#222008/6/24 16:59:33
zhuzhu!在上个帖子中说
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sonic112在上个帖子中说
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zhuzhu拜托下回不要发英文帖子,请多照顾照顾我这样的“农民”谢谢了。
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第2楼就是译文,以后发贴之前看明白了再说,不要出这样的【农民洋相】……


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